Thursday, October 25, 2007

HOTD-Outs 'n' rags

This hand of the day played out well.

FullTiltPoker $3/$6 - 4 handed
Dealt to smizmiatch [6c 5d]
CO folds
smizmiatch raises to $21 from Button
SB folds
Villain calls $15 from BB <-- He's very loose from the blinds.
*** FLOP *** [4c 2d 8d] <-- I flop great with a double belly buster
Villain bets $25
smizmiatch calls $25 <-- I call rather than raise because my hand is well-disguised and I figure my opponent caught a piece of the flop
*** TURN *** [4c 2d 8d] [6s]
Villain bets $60 <-- I don't know what to put him on. Some kind of draw? Some weird BB two pair hand? Why would he bet it out on two streets?
smizmiatch raises to $180 <-- I'm going to try to put an end to this right now with about 5 trillion outs
Villain raises to $300 <-- Wtf is up with the minraise?
smizmiatch has requested TIME

Here is where I go into the tank. I think about going all in, but the villain has shown nothing but strength. I'd hate to call drawing dead to a 7. But really, I think I'm up against some random two pair at this point, in which case I also don't want to go all in.

If I'm not going to push, I guess I have to do the math. I fumbled around on my keyboard for a second before finding the Windows calculator.

My pot odds were better than I thought they'd be at 21 percent (120/575)! With as many as 13 outs, I'm calling here for sure.

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smizmiatch calls $120
*** RIVER *** [4c 2d 8d 6s] [8h] <-- Actually, a great card because it would counterfeit a hand like 64 or 55. But my read is fuzzy.
Villain bets $256, and is all in <-- Is he doing this just because I took so much time on the turn?
smizmiatch has requested TIME
smizmiatch calls $254, and is all in <-- The pot is offering 3:1 odds. I think I'm good more than a quarter of the time. For some reason, my spider sense is telling me he doesn't have an 8.
Uncalled bet of $2 returned to Villain
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Villain shows [7h 3h] a pair of Eights <-- Missed his gutshot draw
smizmiatch shows [6c 5d] two pair, Eights and Sixes
smizmiatch wins the pot ($1,201) with two pair, Eights and Sixes <-- El doble!
Villain is sitting out

I don't know how to feel about this hand. I sensed weakness somewhere, but my read was wrong.

It must have been the minraise on the turn that seemed weak, even though it was meant to look strong.


Wes said...

Not sure what you are doing on the turn when you raise his bet. You probably have the best hand a bunch because people usually donk bet pretty weakly and if you raise you'll fold out a bluff frequently. I'd much much prefer to call and continue than to raise.

But hey, worked out for you so what do I know?

SubZero said...

Awww man, whenever I get raised these days it's by a set or better. Please can you tell these players to come find me on the lower limits after you stack them?

Much obliged!

Alan aka RecessRampage said...

Holy cow... Hell of a call.

Personally, I think the villain actually played this hand pretty well. Of course, one can argue that he could wait for a better spot and that he didn't have to be in the hand to begin with. But being that he was in the hand, not a bad play, I think.

Fuel55 said...

If you're calling the river with one-pair anyway why not shove on turn when he may fold?

Gnome said...

Well, I didn't think he would fold if I pushed on the turn. And I
wasn't committed to calling the river yet.
I thought the 8 was a good card for me because it counterfeited a couple of random two-pair hands. Also, the flush draw didn't get there.
Maybe most of all was the realization that everything didn't add up at the end: he went all-in so quickly after I had tanked for a while, I couldn't put him on a hand and he would have raised more on the turn with a stronger hand.
I would have been much more worried if a flush card, an Ace, a 4 or a 2 had come on the end.
Another thing I thought about when calling the turn reraise was that my opponent might just check the river with many hands that beat mine but would likely pay me off if I hit.

Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazo said...

Ballsy-ass play man. Glad it worked out for you. Personally I woulda been folding on the turn I'm sure.

Well done.

KajaPoker said...

What game were you playing? two card razz? Some sort of NL low-ball? WTF?

JL514 said...

you've been tagged (sorry)

Mine might be a bad reference because it's huge compared to others. For a smaller example of what to do check out Kaja's.