tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post4715850671583622674..comments2023-09-28T06:47:43.209-04:00Comments on The Surly Poker Gnome: Retiring the AK limp-raiseGnomehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06181215527323378978noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-23934631278425329332008-04-14T07:27:00.000-04:002008-04-14T07:27:00.000-04:00If the button's entire stack were 50 BB, that wide...If the button's entire stack were 50 BB, that widens his range considerably. Maybe something like 88+, AT+. In that case, it becomes a close call getting 2:1 pot odds (67:34). It really depends on the button's estimated range.<BR/>I guess you would be forced to call, according to PokerStove:<BR/><BR/>Hand 0: 49.888% 43.69% 06.20% 242364660 34404678.00 { AQs }<BR/>Hand 1: 50.112% 43.91% 06.20% 243612480 34404678.00 { 88+, ATs+, ATo+ }Gnomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181215527323378978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-46951357099483991622008-04-13T22:17:00.000-04:002008-04-13T22:17:00.000-04:00Yea, that's what I figured too, so I pitched it. H...Yea, that's what I figured too, so I pitched it. How about if the raise to 50bb from the button were his entire stack, so calling off the 36bb ends the betting? If you say call, how large would the shove have to be before you fold?spritpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07840930703139677178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-72267843319005088622008-04-13T13:56:00.000-04:002008-04-13T13:56:00.000-04:00bruechips--The button's flat call-reraise in your ...bruechips--<BR/>The button's flat call-reraise in your example seems strong, although suspicious. I envision something like JJ, AA or AK in this situation. I don't think it's worth putting your stack in with AQ to find out.Gnomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181215527323378978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-50574526308087901482008-04-12T13:58:00.000-04:002008-04-12T13:58:00.000-04:00Here's a question: I play NL200, so I don't know i...Here's a question: I play NL200, so I don't know if it would be different from the higher limits, but what is a loose-aggro player's (say 20/12) range when they flat call on the button an open raise from the CO, and then 4b a squeeze from the blinds after the original raiser folds? Sorry if that sounds complicated, but here's the kind of HH I'm talking about:<BR/><BR/>CO raises to 3 bb<BR/>button calls<BR/>sb raises to 14bb<BR/>CO folds<BR/>button raises to 50bb<BR/><BR/>Is that really gonna be AK or better a lot of the time? Wouldn't most aggro players re-raise preflop there? This happened to me yesterday and I was really tempted to put some more money in with AQ, because I thought he was just putting me on a steal. I ended up folding but...I was wondering if you guys have a sense of what hands that player shows up with most of the time.<BR/><BR/>bruechipsspritpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07840930703139677178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-91853489856086778482008-04-10T14:27:00.000-04:002008-04-10T14:27:00.000-04:00To be clear klopzi, I love playing AK aggressively...To be clear klopzi, I love playing AK aggressively, especially preflop. There's no doubt that it's a nice moneymaker when played correctly. Even in a coinflip situation, there's often enough money in the pot already to make pushing AK profitable in the long run, especially if you have any fold equity.<BR/>My point of this post is that I'm going to play AK more straight-up rather than trapping myself with this kind of tricky play.Gnomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181215527323378978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-66617549986226710002008-04-10T13:00:00.000-04:002008-04-10T13:00:00.000-04:00It doesn't seem like lesser or equal hands (QQ and...<I>It doesn't seem like lesser or equal hands (QQ and lower, AK, AQ) will call often enough to make this play profitable.</I><BR/><BR/>I don't know if I'm a strong believer in getting value with my AK. I'm looking to take the pot down pre-flop or getting it all-in pre-flop (though latter case does not apply when playing deep-stack NL).<BR/><BR/>Anytime you can get someone with a pocket pair to lay down their hand to your large pre-flop re-raise or push, they're making a big mistake and that's a good outcome for you, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>I still don't understand why so many cash game players don't like AK. It's such a huge money maker for me: only AA/KK make me more money.<BR/><BR/>My two cents, for what it's worth...Klopzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09601491246369039505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-89582219615044077742008-04-10T10:11:00.000-04:002008-04-10T10:11:00.000-04:00Smokkee, you'll be surprised as to how often a sim...Smokkee, you'll be surprised as to how often a simple 3 bet or a follow up cbet on the flop takes it down. The goal isn't to try to get all your money in preflop. It's to play them like aces or kings (except for the all in part).<BR/><BR/>Gnome, I agree that retiring that move is probably a good thing. However, experiments are always good and I truly think that's why you (and I) have improved a lot... I mean without trying to see what works and what doesn't, how will we know, right?Alan aka RecessRampagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00544791207717813141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-57008395990503645312008-04-10T06:11:00.000-04:002008-04-10T06:11:00.000-04:00this is gonna sound weak/tight but, i'm not a real...this is gonna sound weak/tight but, i'm not a real big fan of AKo in a cash game. i play full ring not 6-max. <BR/><BR/>i'm not taking coin flips for my whole stack in a full ring game. i'd rather get in with a std raise or squeeze from the blinds with it. but, if i get called and whiff the flop i'm done with it. if i get reraised big pf, i dump it too. <BR/><BR/>i'm not gonna get a bunch of chips invested with the Ace-high or trying to chase a pair that may already be dominated.smokkeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13494763585388001041noreply@blogger.com