tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post1104932864771743085..comments2023-09-28T06:47:43.209-04:00Comments on The Surly Poker Gnome: QQ optionGnomehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06181215527323378978noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-3640969263067231632008-02-29T02:49:00.000-05:002008-02-29T02:49:00.000-05:00Shrike: Most of the time you have to find a way to...Shrike: Most of the time you have to find a way to fold unless you're against a huge donkey.Gnomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181215527323378978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-74586996380649126422008-02-28T18:47:00.000-05:002008-02-28T18:47:00.000-05:00Gnome -One thing I forgot to mention is that the b...Gnome -<BR/><BR/>One thing I forgot to mention is that the better your opponents and the deeper the stacks, the less likely I'd be to push Queens pre-flop.<BR/><BR/>I tend to forget sometimes that most people play with 100 BB stacks or more. In this case, it might be best to simply see the flop and make a move then.<BR/><BR/>Also, I believe that the players at $5/$10 are much better than the players at $1/$2. <BR/><BR/>But I do agree with your points if I'm playing with a medium to big stack.Klopzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09601491246369039505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-8989531317648191852008-02-28T15:22:00.000-05:002008-02-28T15:22:00.000-05:00What to do if you 3-bet QQ and get 4-bet allin? Re...What to do if you 3-bet QQ and get 4-bet allin? Recently the last six or seven times that's happened to me, I've called for stacks and am always up against AA or KK. :(<BR/><BR/>Also, the last three times I've 4-bet QQ I've run into AA or KK. :(<BR/><BR/>Is this just variance, or classic setup poker, or do I need to adjust my expectations at NL100?Shrikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05404058806313927899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-70006937897540920862008-02-28T14:08:00.000-05:002008-02-28T14:08:00.000-05:00I'm not a fan of QQ. I probably lost $10K alone la...I'm not a fan of QQ. I probably lost $10K alone last year running it into KK or AA. <BR/><BR/>Bad luck or bad timing I don't know and I've played it about every way imaginable that now I treat it like TT or JJ.<BR/><BR/>Amazingly since I started laying it down more I've saved a ton of money since for some reason it still runs into monsters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-45467852364636703782008-02-28T13:19:00.000-05:002008-02-28T13:19:00.000-05:00Klopzi: In my experience, getting it all-in preflo...Klopzi: In my experience, getting it all-in preflop with QQ is not +EV against most opponents. <BR/>Most opponents will assume your 4-bet means Aces or Kings, so they're unlikely to continue with the hand unless they have an equivalent or better hand.<BR/>I also don't find as many players as you would expect who want to get it all-in preflop with AK.<BR/>So I don't believe QQ performs well enough against most opponents' all-in preflop range. Of course, against donkeys, QQ gains a lot of value.<BR/>I don't think you have to get committed with a 4-bet preflop. For example, in a 5/10 game, let's say I raise it to $35 from the cutoff with QQ. The button reraises to $100, and then I would make the 4-bet to between $230 and $260. There's still plenty of room to fold if my opponent pushes all in at this point.Gnomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181215527323378978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-59228012526543175932008-02-28T09:22:00.000-05:002008-02-28T09:22:00.000-05:00I'd think that getting it all-in pre-flop with QQ ...I'd think that getting it all-in pre-flop with QQ is +EV against most opponents. <BR/><BR/>Even if your opponent will only get all-in with AA-QQ and AK, you're still looking at 40% equity. And by the time you're 4-betting all-in or calling a 4-bet all-in, there's usually enough overlay to make this correct against all but the uber-tightest players.<BR/><BR/>Am I wrong here?Klopzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09601491246369039505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18806762.post-56317445535232046042008-02-28T09:19:00.000-05:002008-02-28T09:19:00.000-05:00This is really a good tip.This is really a good tip.kurokittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00684922671174548776noreply@blogger.com